(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]
PW[shygost]PB[shygost]DT[2006-01-10]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[MysticoN [11k\]: hey shy !
davidwatt [9k\]: i hear you:)
MysticoN [11k\]: yep
sheeryjay [15k?\]: thanks shygost for this wonderful teaching
Anfaenger2 [30k?\]: is it over?
Falkor [18k\]: no it's starting any moment :-D
Anfaenger2 [30k?\]: good i'm not too late ^^
shygost [-\]: !shygost@pacbell.net
RetroGen [30k?\]: HEllo
Drimgere [5k\]: only admins can do it in games
Drimgere [5k\]: ^-^
RetroGen [30k?\]: ...
Anfaenger2 [30k?\]: i just finished a game so i couldn't come earlier
Anfaenger2 [30k?\]: hello retrogen
RetroGen [30k?\]: Hmm should I hear something now?
sheeryjay [15k?\]: yeah
RetroGen [30k?\]: ...
Drimgere [5k\]: turn on sound in your preferences
RetroGen [30k?\]: I have
Dita [6k\]: we understand thnx :)
RetroGen [30k?\]: Hmm I rerun this
Falkor [18k\]: 3! :-D
Hu [12k?\]: Folks, please discuss all sound issues in the Room, not here.
Hu [12k?\]: (except for feedback when shygost asks)
RetroGen [30k?\]: Is he talking etm?
RetroGen [30k?\]: atm*
Batavia [11k\]: any sound actually playing?
Dita [6k\]: yes, he's talking
Falkor [18k\]: I love opening theory!
RetroGen [30k?\]: ...
shygost [-\]: yes ret... I'm talking
Hu [12k?\]: Ah that's better sound.
RetroGen [30k?\]: Well.. it is useful to turn speakers on
Osasto79 [2k\]: you can even hear his keyboard :D
Dakre [2k?\]: is somebody recording?
sduff [17k?\]: Recording now
Dakre [2k?\]: cool ;) thanks in advance :>
Dita [6k\]: lol
Anfaenger2 [30k?\]: oh he's ill.... XD
sheeryjay [15k?\]: you are recording sound?
Falkor [18k\]: sduff, if shygost thinks it's ok - could you make them public in mp3 format?
sduff [17k?\]: yes, sound too
Memith [?\]: take all sound questions to LGD room
sduff [17k?\]: cleared it with shygost, will upload audio/screen cap after lesson
Memith [?\]: q4!
Falkor [18k\]: Q16 
]
;B[pp]CR[pp]C[MysticoN [11k\]: haha
]
;W[dq]CR[dq]C[davidwatt [9k\]: hehe:)
Falkor [18k\]: heh
Anfaenger2 [30k?\]: poor shygost.... are you ill?
Anfaenger2 [30k?\]: oh it starts
Hu [12k?\]: No, start in upper right is tradition ^^
Dita [6k\]: top right is polite to start
Drimgere [5k\]: d16
Osasto79 [2k\]: q17 
NoraInu [?\]: Q17 
Barrauss [-\]: C17.
Falkor [18k\]: Q16 
]
;B[pc]CR[pc]C[Osasto79 [2k\]: weee
]
;W[cd]CR[cd]LB[ec:B][ed:D][qe:A][co:C]C[senore [21k\]: d5
MysticoN [11k\]: D5 
Memith [?\]: q 15
Dakre [2k?\]: e16 :>
Dita [6k\]: E16
Drimgere [5k\]: e16
Barrauss [-\]: E17.
Rai [29k?\]: e17
tarragone [9k?\]: e16 for sure
Rai [29k?\]: e17!!
senore [21k\]: e6 or d5
MrTenuki [13k\]: With black's upper right corner, low approach is better?
Batavia [11k\]: B
NeoIGO [14k\]: b
senore [21k\]: c
Rai [29k?\]: c
Anfaenger2 [30k?\]: c
RetroGen [30k?\]: c
Memith [?\]: stop picking moves
senore [21k\]: then a
Memith [?\]: he discussing
senore [21k\]: yep
senore [21k\]: so e16 better than d5?
senore [21k\]: d
Rai [29k?\]: b
Rai [29k?\]: b
MysticoN [11k\]: D
Rai [29k?\]: b
]
;B[ed]CR[ed]C[Falkor [18k\]: yes
MysticoN [11k\]: yup
]
;W[qf]CR[qf]LB[qd:A][co:B]C[davidwatt [9k\]: r12
Barrauss [-\]: R10.
Falkor [18k\]: pincer R11 
MysticoN [11k\]: P15 
Osasto79 [2k\]: its hasami :D
tarragone [9k?\]: i say r16
dolphyfan [23k\]: why not closer, at R15 for W
Rai [29k?\]: q13
Dita [6k\]: C17
Drimgere [5k\]: r16
Osasto79 [2k\]: r16 next
senore [21k\]: dita, audio is fine
Rai [29k?\]: q13
RetroGen [30k?\]: r15
Rai [29k?\]: f15 instead of f16?
DonQ [15k\]: d5 ?
RetroGen [30k?\]: r15
MysticoN [11k\]: A
mdm [11k\]: a
Memith [?\]: I go with the pro
Uvas [-\]: a
NannyOgg [-\]: A
Danski [14k\]: A
nitram1 [9k\]: a
rCr [21k\]: a
SoulShard [?\]: ש :P
cht [11k\]: a
davidwatt [9k\]: a
Falkor [18k\]: A
pilek [18k\]: A
Misma [3k\]: A
SoulShard [?\]: a
Dita [6k\]: A
Falkor [18k\]: heh
]
(;B[qh]CR[qh]C[Rai [29k?\]: wo
Memith [?\]: yes
senore [21k\]: maybe
Danski [14k\]: Yeah.
davidwatt [9k\]: yes
Osasto79 [2k\]: :\]
Dita [6k\]: senore try rejoining the game if audio is not working
RetroGen [30k?\]: Yea
Rai [29k?\]: yes
])
(;B[jp]CR[jp]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[gp]CR[gp]
;W[cf]CR[cf]
;B[qh]CR[qh]C[senore [21k\]: oh my god, im gonna be mad
])
(;B[qj]CR[qj]C[Osasto79 [2k\]: woow
senore [21k\]: r12?
])
(;B[oe]CR[oe]C[Rai [29k?\]: q12 or 1
])
(;B[df]CR[df]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[fc]CR[fc]C[Rai [29k?\]: 13*
]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[bf]CR[bf]
(;B[oe]CR[oe])
(;B[jd]CR[jd]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[oe]CR[oe]C[MysticoN [11k\]: I see
]))
(;B[qd]CR[qd]C[Rai [29k?\]: A
Fir3h4nd [-\]: ^^
senore [21k\]: a
]
(;W[qi]CR[qi]
;B[qk]CR[qk]LB[nc:B][of:C][oi:D][qm:A]C[tarragone [9k?\]: white p11
tarragone [9k?\]: :<
ChiyoDad [19k\]: Is P15 too aggressive?
freeks [13k\]: are you pro?
mdm [11k\]: see his info
freeks [13k\]: oh sorry
]
(;W[qm]CR[qm]
;B[pl]CR[pl])
(;W[of]CR[of]
(;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[nc]CR[nc])
(;B[nd]CR[nd]))
(;W[oi]CR[oi]
(;B[qn]CR[qn]
;W[nc]CR[nc])
(;B[oe]CR[oe]C[ChiyoDad [19k\]: For W I mean
]))
(;W[oe]CR[oe]
;B[nc]CR[nc]C[NannyOgg [-\]: hi pierre!
RetroGen [30k?\]: Hello Nanny
Rai [29k?\]: =O
]
;W[co]CR[co]
;B[pf]CR[pf]C[ChiyoDad [19k\]: Ah!
Falkor [18k\]: the list! :-D
RetroGen [30k?\]: ? :o
PierreH [12k?\]: hi
Rai [29k?\]: q14 is not dead?
PierreH [12k?\]: hi everybody
]
;W[pe]CR[pe]C[RetroGen [30k?\]: No
]))
(;W[pj]CR[pj]C[Dita [6k\]: lol
]
(;B[ql]CR[ql]C[Rai [29k?\]: black already has the corner?
]
;W[of]CR[of]C[Misma [3k\]: i like r11 more >.<
senore [21k\]: which corner?
Memith [?\]: o16
senore [21k\]: aha, yea
]
(;B[nd]CR[nd]C[senore [21k\]: ah, yea
Dita [6k\]: aha!
Rai [29k?\]: i would play O12
Rai [29k?\]: what about that one?
Falkor [18k\]: seems a bit small?
kkamil [15k\]: c5
Misma [3k\]: Lol :>
Rai [29k?\]: ok
tarragone [9k?\]: h16
senore [21k\]: c17 bad?
MysticoN [11k\]: G17 
crimatix [13k\]: g17
Memith [?\]: it's shy's move though, no vote hehe
crimatix [13k\]: g16
kkamil [15k\]: g17
crimatix [13k\]:  
Memith [?\]: by not playing the move
]
(;W[co]CR[co]C[Fluffball [14k\]: hard to invade
]
;B[df]CR[df]
;W[ec]CR[ec]
;B[fc]CR[fc]
;W[dc]CR[dc]
;B[fd]CR[fd])
(;AE[of][qf]C[senore [21k\]: nooo
]
;W[qe]CR[qe]
;B[ss]CR[ss]
;W[pe]CR[pe]
;B[rs]CR[rs]
;W[lc]CR[lc]C[Falkor [18k\]: hehehe
]
;B[ic]CR[ic]
;W[oc]CR[oc])
(;W[ic]CR[ic]C[Uvas [-\]: hi sara
senore [21k\]: but if you played that move already
Danski [14k\]: l17
Rai [29k?\]: l16
Misma [3k\]: hard to find a move for black :)
NannyOgg [-\]: D5
dagger34 [15k\]: c17
Barrauss [-\]: C17
MysticoN [11k\]: G16 
Falkor [18k\]: D17 ?
dolphyfan [23k\]: j3
Osasto79 [2k\]: d14
]
(;B[kc]CR[kc])
(;B[ss]CR[ss]
;W[lc]CR[lc])
(;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[kb]CR[kb])
(;B[cc]CR[cc]
;W[bc]CR[bc]C[Falkor [18k\]: does "fake" moyo differ from a "standard" moyo?
]
;B[dc]CR[dc]
;W[be]CR[be]
;B[gc]CR[gc]C[Memith [?\]: fake moyo isn't really a moyo
davidwatt [9k\]: hehe:)
]
;W[lc]CR[lc]C[Falkor [18k\]: heh
Misma [3k\]: That's why it's called "fake..."
Rai [29k?\]: what's moyo?
Misma [3k\]: d5?
senore [21k\]: fake moyo is some kind of moyo, fake moyo
Barrauss [-\]: C5
RetroGen [30k?\]: framework
Rai [29k?\]: ok
]
(;B[cf]CR[cf])
(;B[co]CR[co]LB[df:A][dg:B][ch:C][ci:D]C[Danski [14k\]: Go to senseis.
crimatix [13k\]: e4
NannyOgg [-\]: http://senseis.xmp.net/?Moyo
Falkor [18k\]: that looks nice :-)
Kamyk [2k\]: f3
]
(;W[ss]CR[ss]
;B[cg]CR[cg]
;W[de]CR[de]
;B[dj]CR[dj]C[RetroGen [30k?\]: good site to have open same time :)
])
(;W[dg]CR[dg]C[crimatix [13k\]: e4
MysticoN [11k\]: E4 
RetroGen [30k?\]: G14
Osasto79 [2k\]: thx
Barrauss [-\]: P3.
Uvas [-\]: o3?
]
(;B[ss]CR[ss]
;W[cm]CR[cm]C[Uvas [-\]: :)
])
(;B[cl]CR[cl]
(;W[gq]CR[gq]C[ChiyoDad [19k\]: Is B-D8 too vulnerable?
Rai [29k?\]: c11 w
MysticoN [11k\]: M15 
Rai [29k?\]: um
Dita [6k\]: O3
kkamil [15k\]: L3
ChiyoDad [19k\]: B-L3 for a double wing now?
]
(;B[le]CR[le]C[kirkbobic [19k\]: c12
]
(;W[ie]CR[ie]C[Falkor [18k\]: why not N15 ?
Rai [29k?\]: l15
Fluffball [14k\]: o3
])
(;W[me]CR[me]C[wysek [9k?\]: Falkor, soon-to-be-dan
])
(;W[kd]CR[kd]
;B[me]CR[me]C[Osasto79 [2k\]: (there are almost 200 moves each go game) 
]))
(;B[ci]CR[ci])
(;B[me]CR[me]C[freeks [13k\]: falkor?
MysticoN [11k\]: getting a good feeling from it
Barrauss [-\]: Falkor
Falkor [18k\]: :-)
]
(;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[kd]CR[kd]
;W[kc]CR[kc]
;B[ie]CR[ie]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[ok]CR[ok])
(;W[ie]CR[ie]LB[ge:A][ff:B][fg:C]C[Memith [?\]: g15?
davidwatt [9k\]: f13
MysticoN [11k\]: P8 
Dakre [2k?\]: k16 peep?
Rai [30k?\]: h15
Osasto79 [2k\]: r12
freeks [13k\]: f14
dolphyfan [23k\]: F14
freeks [13k\]: lol
Barrauss [-\]: F14.
DonQ [15k\]: f14?
Fluffball [14k\]: B
allezvite [13k\]: b
DonQ [15k\]: b
Rai [30k?\]: b
gocni [14k\]: B
Ithmatic [16k?\]: B
nitram1 [9k\]: b
MysticoN [11k\]: b
mykogo [29k?\]: b
Memith [?\]: I'll say B since you can tear us apart
Barrauss [-\]: C!
rCr [21k\]: c
freeks [13k\]: C
Dakre [2k?\]: C :>
]
(;B[ol]CR[ol]C[olczyk [15k\]: l3
MysticoN [11k\]: :P
])
(;B[ff]CR[ff]C[Dita [6k\]: hehe
SudenDeath [8k\]: c...
olczyk [15k\]: How about D1`5 first?
olczyk [15k\]: D15
RetroGen [30k?\]: IT is good to be lazy!
DragonCow [14k?\]: :p
]
(;W[nq]CR[nq]
;B[ig]CR[ig]
;W[kf]CR[kf]
;B[mg]CR[mg])
(;W[ig]CR[ig]C[Rai [30k?\]: =O
]
;B[fh]CR[fh]C[DonQ [15k\]: n13?
Rai [30k?\]: f10
]
(;W[ss]CR[ss]
;B[di]CR[di]
(;W[sr]CR[sr]
;B[cg]CR[cg])
(;W[rs]CR[rs]
(;B[ch]CR[ch]
;W[cg]CR[cg])
(;B[cg]CR[cg])))
(;W[ci]CR[ci]LB[pc:A]C[Osasto79 [2k\]: r12
MysticoN [11k\]: M12 
Barrauss [-\]: P3.
shygost [-\]: shygost@pacbell.net
hotcoffee [11k\]: P8?
Memith [?\]: is the group on the left still feeling significan pressure?
Memith [?\]: or can B move on and get the right group further out
Falkor [18k\]: seems settled?
hotcoffee [11k\]: N13.
Memith [?\]: n13 then
]
(;B[ss]CR[ss]
;W[mg]CR[mg]C[Falkor [18k\]: N13 ?
])
(;B[mg]CR[mg]
;AE[ii][nj]LB[ii:A][rj:B]C[hotcoffee [11k\]: O11.
Dita [6k\]: Q10 I think :>
Osasto79 [2k\]: j11 then attack b on left
aggrovated [19k\]: P12?
Dita [6k\]: Q10 mean the group wich needs help
sduff [17k?\]: im recording it. audio is bad for me too, but still make sense
]
(;W[ni]CR[ni]
;B[og]CR[og]
;W[pg]CR[pg]C[hotcoffee [11k\]: W still has O18 for later
]
;B[oh]CR[oh]
;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[oi]CR[oi])
(;W[nj]CR[nj])
(;W[ii]CR[ii]C[RetroGen [30k?\]: Someone was recording this? I keep losing audio whole time
]
;B[rj]CR[rj]
;W[fj]CR[fj])
(;W[oh]CR[oh]
;B[rj]CR[rj])
(;W[rj]CR[rj]C[MysticoN [11k\]: Q7 
Uvas [-\]: p8
MysticoN [11k\]: ^^
]
(;B[ii]CR[ii]C[rCr [21k\]: sorry haven´t installed my virtual audio cable
Kamyk [2k\]: bye:)
MysticoN [11k\]: :)
ChiyoDad [19k\]: Her name again?
NannyOgg [-\]: feng yun
Remillard [-\]: feng yun
MysticoN [11k\]: Feng Yun ?
freeks [13k\]: chinese?
liza [-\]: ^_^
]
(;W[mi]CR[mi]
;B[lh]CR[lh])
(;W[lf]CR[lf]
;B[mf]CR[mf]
;W[le]CR[le]C[Rai [30k?\]: l13
Hu [12k?\]: disjointed
Rai [30k?\]: ohh
Barrauss [-\]: R5.
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: r12?
Memith [?\]: nope
Dita [6k\]: R4 then too slow?
Rai [30k?\]: list....?
]
(;B[kg]CR[kg]C[allezvite [13k\]: could B have gone O13 instead of  N14?
snakeeater [4k\]: L12 I mean
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: r12?
Rai [30k?\]: I see
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: yes
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: 5
Rai [30k?\]: isreal what?!
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: 13 years old :-)
ph [13k\]: O3, hopefully end in sente, and then R6 ? :)
Ithmatic [16k?\]: disconnected?
]
;W[lg]CR[lg]
;B[lh]CR[lh]
;W[kh]CR[kh]
;B[jh]CR[jh]C[snakeeater [4k\]: K12 better to seal w in?
]
;W[ki]CR[ki]
;B[jg]CR[jg]C[MysticoN [11k\]: F5 
]
;W[mh]CR[mh]
;B[li]CR[li]
;W[lj]CR[lj]
;B[mi]CR[mi]
;W[nh]CR[nh]
;B[kj]CR[kj]
;W[nb]CR[nb])
(;B[kh]CR[kh]C[snakeeater [4k\]: yes
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: r12
Remillard [-\]: (are we taking move suggestions?)
]
;W[nb]CR[nb])
(;B[nb]CR[nb]C[NannyOgg [-\]: yes, remi
])
(;B[qo]CR[qo]C[Remillard [-\]: I'd be concerned about R6 and might do P8
Falkor [18k\]: how is N17 ?
Falkor [18k\]: ah
ChiyoDad [19k\]: 3-3 no longer lives?
Memith [?\]: rai: the list is the way to think
Barrauss [-\]: It's in my info
rawr [23k\]: shygost@pacbell.net 
NannyOgg [-\]:  shygost@pacbell.net
Rai [30k?\]: thanks
Osasto79 [2k\]: have to play around o3 
Mandos [12k\]: q5 for W now ?
snakeeater [4k\]: i like c4 
Mandos [12k\]: q2*
Osasto79 [2k\]: or loses without points
]
;W[or]CR[or]
;B[pq]CR[pq]
;W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[qr]CR[qr]
;W[lq]CR[lq]C[Osasto79 [2k\]: k3 fight
Rai [30k?\]: r3 instead of q3?
snakeeater [4k\]: yeah! :D
snakeeater [4k\]: me niehter. :D
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: b can r12
Osasto79 [2k\]: cool
Rai [30k?\]: t10 and t14 for b
Rai [30k?\]: will take from w two points?
RetroGen [30k?\]: No
Shikasta [17k\]: b3
Shikasta [17k\]: this fight so small surely tenuki?
Memith [?\]: this isn't real moves
]
(;B[as]CR[as]C[olczyk [15k\]: I understand the basics, I just never do it :( .
]
;W[re]CR[re]
;B[rd]CR[rd]
;W[nb]CR[nb]
;B[ob]CR[ob]
;W[nc]CR[nc]
;B[oc]CR[oc]
;W[sd]CR[sd]C[Falkor [18k\]: 12 points?
]
;B[sc]CR[sc]
;W[se]CR[se]
;B[rc]CR[rc]
;W[na]CR[na]
;B[oa]CR[oa]
;W[oe]CR[oe]C[RetroGen [30k?\]: 9
]
;B[od]CR[od]C[RetroGen [30k?\]: had 12
])
(;B[re]CR[re]
;W[rf]CR[rf]
(;B[oh]CR[oh]C[GoIsMyLife [3k\]: no b
]
(;W[ph]CR[ph]
;B[og]CR[og]
;W[pg]CR[pg]
;B[qk]CR[qk]
;W[qj]CR[qj]C[Rai [30k?\]: p12 for the side?
]
;B[oi]CR[oi]
;W[pi]CR[pi]
(;B[sf]CR[sf]C[Rai [30k?\]: heh
snakeeater [4k\]: oh i see..
])
(;B[se]CR[se]C[GoIsMyLife [3k\]: why not r12?
]
;W[sf]CR[sf]
;B[rk]CR[rk]
;W[sj]CR[sj]C[RetroGen [30k?\]: 9
freeks [13k\]: 9
]))
(;W[qh]CR[qh]))
(;B[qh]CR[qh]
;W[oh]CR[oh])
(;B[qi]CR[qi]
;W[qj]CR[qj]
;B[pg]CR[pg]C[GoIsMyLife [3k\]: before s15
]
;W[pf]CR[pf]
;B[oh]CR[oh]))
(;B[qh]CR[qh]C[Rai [30k?\]: in the end of w taking the side
]
;W[pg]CR[pg]C[Rai [30k?\]: question
])
(;B[oh]CR[oh])
(;B[hb]CR[hb]
;W[ib]CR[ib]
;B[jh]CR[jh]
;W[jg]CR[jg]
;B[kg]CR[kg]
;W[kf]CR[kf]
(;B[mb]CR[mb])
(;B[nb]CR[nb]
;W[mb]CR[mb]
;B[mc]CR[mc]
;W[lb]CR[lb]
(;B[ma]CR[ma])
(;B[na]CR[na]
;W[ma]CR[ma]
;B[ha]CR[ha]
;W[ia]CR[ia]
;B[hd]CR[hd]C[Falkor [18k\]: M16 ?
]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[hf]CR[hf]
;W[if]CR[if]C[freeks [13k\]: 12 pt
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: 12
])))
(;B[ss]CR[ss]
;W[hb]CR[hb]
;B[gb]CR[gb]
;W[bb]CR[bb]C[aggrovated [19k\]: practicing counting =)
]
;B[cb]CR[cb]
;W[ba]CR[ba]
;B[ca]CR[ca]
;W[ha]CR[ha]
;B[ga]CR[ga]C[Memith [?\]: it's counting, do you have audio?
]
;W[ge]CR[ge]C[Barrauss [-\]: Yes, we're counting.
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;B[fe]CR[fe]
;W[gd]CR[gd]
;B[fd]CR[fd]C[Shikasta [17k\]: ahh soz
freeks [13k\]: 8
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: 8
snakeeater [4k\]: so what happens after this rough counting the score is too close?
dolphyfan [23k\]: muy muchas gracias, shygost
Uvas [-\]: thank you
ph [13k\]: how about counting T7 ?
Barrauss [-\]: w+10 or so I believe.
Dita [6k\]: thnx!
aggrovated [19k\]: thanks
snakeeater [4k\]: later!
Memith [?\]: thank you shy
rawr [23k\]: thx a lot!
MysticoN [11k\]: thank you shy¨
NannyOgg [-\]: Thank you, shy!!!!
Hu [12k?\]: Thank you!
freeks [13k\]: thanks :)
RetroGen [30k?\]: how bout weak kyu tournee at LGD?
gocni [14k\]: many thanks
ChiyoDad [19k\]: Thanks shygost!
davidwatt [9k\]: thanks:)
xix [?\]: thx
SoulShard [?\]: Thanks shy :O!
Rai [30k?\]: thanks
Falkor [18k\]: thanks!
kkamil [15k\]: thx
dagger34 [15k\]: thank you shygost ^_^
olczyk [15k\]: Thank You
GoIsMyLife [3k\]: thx
Memith [?\]: make one yourself
Falkor [18k\]: great guy
snakeeater [4k\]: i improved today. :D
Osasto79 [2k\]: when is next ?
Batavia [11k\]: tnx
Memith [?\]: friday
RetroGen [30k?\]: saturday
AhSayuni [8k\]: was this one of the official lessons?...
RetroGen [30k?\]: 02:00am gmt
NannyOgg [-\]: Friday 7-8pm PST
Osasto79 [2k\]: hmm :\]
trek [16k\]: thx
dolphyfan [23k\]: is there a way to record these?
vinhxuan [9k\]: why there is shygost email here ?
Winterfell [?\]: It is recorded.
NannyOgg [-\]: yes,this was an official lesson
mykogo [29k?\]: the one who recorded, but the recording to a server
NannyOgg [-\]: no, there wasn't a recording to the server
Falkor [18k\]: sduff, how about we try to edit the sgf file to add shygost's comments?
NannyOgg [-\]: but some one recorded 
mykogo [29k?\]: aah...if someone did
Winterfell [?\]: Recorded by a user.
olczyk [15k\]: Nanny do you have his list?
NannyOgg [-\]: yes, falkor, I want to do that
Falkor [18k\]: sduff recorded.
Batavia [11k\]: hey sduff, you got a torrent?
mykogo [29k?\]: naa...he should use http + link to the rooms
Rikadyn [30k?\]: be nice if the comments were edited to the sgf....
olczyk [15k\]: Batavia probably not yet.
Falkor [18k\]: We'll check it out. If anybody needs to host stuff like this, I might be able to help 
sduff [17k?\]: no torrent, will post onto a web page when i can
mykogo [29k?\]: great
sduff [17k?\]: and will send shygost the URL
NannyOgg [-\]: maybe send it to falkor and he can post it?
sduff [17k?\]: Quality not so good :(
Falkor [18k\]: sduff. I'll PM you?
ChiyoDad [19k\]: Is there a way to donate to keep these lessons going? PayPal?
Batavia [11k\]: but htt everything goes agains his bandwidth, with torrent you share bandwidth. that's why i like torrents
sduff [17k?\]: okay Falkor
NannyOgg [-\]: yes, chiyo, contact me, and I'll give you the details
dolphyfan [23k\]: yes paypal 
NannyOgg [-\]: paypal or check
mdm [11k\]: you can easily use audacity to record it. and compress to speex later to make it very small.
dolphyfan [23k\]: to lance @kemper painting.com
sduff [17k?\]: Im on a uni connection, so no bw limits =)
dolphyfan [23k\]: thanks, nannyogg
NannyOgg [-\]: :)
snakeeater [4k\]: will the lessons be continuous?
NannyOgg [-\]: there will be a Tue and Fri lesson
NannyOgg [-\]: i think they will be 'the same'
NannyOgg [-\]: kind of since different moves might happen
Reepicheep [10k\]: This series of 35 lessons was funded by those interested in public lessons. If you want these lessons to continue, you may contribute any amount you wish (use paypal… Lance@KemperPainting.com). As long as the lessons are funded they will continue. They are Tuesday 8-9am and Friday 7-8pm PST.
NannyOgg [-\]: and then next week builds on those
NannyOgg [-\]: and so on
snakeeater [4k\]: i c. cool.
snakeeater [4k\]: listening to it twice should help
sduff [17k?\]: I'll send Shygost a URL where you can download a copy of this lesson (audio+video) tomorow
Falkor [18k\]: NannyOgg, we'll try to convert it to text and host the sgf files?
sheeryjay [15k?\]: sduff, pls write the URL into your profile too
NannyOgg [-\]: sduff, could you send it to me too?
NannyOgg [-\]: plomp@together.net
mdm [11k\]: can you put an audio only version as well?
NannyOgg [-\]: yes, falkor, would love to
Ithmatic [16k?\]: yeah could you jus put it in your info sduff?
Falkor [18k\]: good stuff. We'll have  a look at the recording once it's compressed ;-)
sduff [17k?\]: okay, will be in my info too. check tomorow. bed time for me now
Falkor [18k\]: I really, really enjoyed this lesson.
NannyOgg [-\]: he is an excellent teacher
Falkor [18k\]: later sduff :-)
NannyOgg [-\]: night sduff
NannyOgg [-\]: falkor, do you have time now?
Falkor [18k\]: not really, I'm afraid. I'm going out to dinner soon :-/
NannyOgg [-\]: lol, ok, then see you later!
Falkor [18k\]: later :-D
NannyOgg [-\]: Thank you all for attending the lesson
NannyOgg [-\]: next one will be on Friday 7-8pm PST
]))
(;B[sa]CR[sa]
;W[qn]CR[qn])
(;B[qn]CR[qn]C[Barrauss [-\]: No.
olczyk [15k\]: w about white Q3?
Rai [30k?\]: its alive?
])))
(;B[pm]CR[pm]C[Falkor [18k\]: how big is the lower side now? 
liza [-\]: ;)
])
(;B[ol]CR[ol]C[davidwatt [9k\]: j3
dagger34 [15k\]: o8
]
(;W[ss]CR[ss]
;B[nj]CR[nj]C[mazg [18k\]: l2?
])
(;W[qq]CR[qq]
;B[qp]CR[qp]
;W[pq]CR[pq]
;B[op]CR[op]
;W[rl]CR[rl])
(;W[nj]CR[nj]C[Rai [30k?\]:  oh it scared me
]))
(;B[ss]CR[ss]
;W[mi]CR[mi]C[Falkor [18k\]: not nice
])
(;B[mi]CR[mi]C[Batavia [11k\]: how about O3 to make the R3 invasion harder?
snakeeater [4k\]: O9?
Rai [30k?\]: p12?
Danski [14k\]: I thank you for this lesson, and I will check the rest of the lesson later, but now I have to go. Bye!
]))))
(;W[cj]CR[cj]
(;B[dh]CR[dh])
(;B[di]CR[di])
(;B[ci]CR[ci]C[Rai [30k?\]: k10 will help black? or k11?
]))))
(;B[ge]CR[ge]C[Dakre [2k?\]: not k16 kikashi before running out?
])
(;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[gf]CR[gf])
(;B[fg]CR[fg]C[Osasto79 [2k\]: g14
Rai [30k?\]: e14
Falkor [18k\]: heh
hikari99 [3d\]: rofl
]
(;W[ff]CR[ff]C[hotcoffee [11k\]: nice tesuji
]
;B[ef]CR[ef]C[Falkor [18k\]: aren't you running with knights move now? :-p
]
;W[eg]CR[eg]
;B[gf]CR[gf]
;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[ge]CR[ge]
;W[ee]CR[ee]
;B[de]CR[de]
;W[df]CR[df]
;B[fd]CR[fd]
;W[ef]CR[ef]
;B[gg]CR[gg])
(;W[fe]CR[fe]
;B[ee]CR[ee]
;W[ff]CR[ff]
;B[ef]CR[ef]
;W[eg]CR[eg]
;B[hd]CR[hd]
;W[id]CR[id]
;B[gf]CR[gf])))))
(;W[me]CR[me]C[davidwatt [9k\]: j3
]
;B[fq]CR[fq]))
(;B[dl]CR[dl]
;W[cj]CR[cj]
(;B[fq]CR[fq]
;W[ep]CR[ep])
(;B[eo]CR[eo]
;W[gq]CR[gq]))
(;B[me]CR[me]
;W[cm]CR[cm]C[Dita [6k\]: cool :)
jramon [15k\]: M16 possible?
]))
(;AE[gc]AB[ic]C[Memith [?\]: I don't like e4
Rai [29k?\]: d5?
davidwatt [9k\]: c9
]
(;W[df]CR[df]
;B[ss]CR[ss]
;W[fe]CR[fe])
(;AE[ic]AB[hc]
(;W[df]CR[df]C[Barrauss [-\]: F4 :)
])
(;W[dg]CR[dg]C[MysticoN [11k\]: f4
MysticoN [11k\]: instead :p
Falkor [18k\]: waht about a double wing for Q4 ?
senore [21k\]: ok
Dita [6k\]: G3
hotcoffee [11k\]: G3
]
(;B[ep]CR[ep]C[MysticoN [11k\]: cant white ladder break =
aitkensam [3k\]: h3
MysticoN [11k\]: ?
]
;W[eq]CR[eq]
;B[fp]CR[fp]
;W[gq]CR[gq]
;B[cj]CR[cj]C[Uvas [-\]: is the board different now?
Barrauss [-\]: Mys is agreeing with me, I must be wrong ;p
Osasto79 [2k\]: upper part is changed
Misma [3k\]: left is small
MysticoN [11k\]: haha
])
(;B[fq]CR[fq])
(;B[jq]CR[jq]C[Falkor [18k\]: mhm
MysticoN [11k\]: ugly :p
])
(;B[sa]CR[sa]))
(;W[ch]CR[ch])))))
(;B[gd]CR[gd])
(;B[iq]CR[iq]C[PierreH [12k?\]: hard to explain everything...
Dita [6k\]: D10
]))
(;W[hd]CR[hd]C[crimatix [13k\]: hi
Rai [29k?\]: j15 for w
]
;B[jc]CR[jc]C[Misma [3k\]: attack blacks shape?
Dita [6k\]: w stone feels too high now?
senore [21k\]: well, how to defend that?
])
(;W[gc]CR[gc]C[senore [21k\]: i mean, how white can defend?
]))
(;B[mc]CR[mc]C[hotcoffee [11k\]: aha. ok.
]
;AE[cd][ed]C[Rai [29k?\]: oh
]
;W[ed]CR[ed]
;B[cd]CR[cd]C[davidwatt [9k\]: nice
hotcoffee [11k\]: it's not a "?" area? what did you call it?
NannyOgg [-\]: growing area
Barrauss [-\]: growing
rCr [21k\]: thx
]))
(;B[co]CR[co]
;W[qn]CR[qn])))
(;B[co]CR[co]C[Uvas [-\]: ys
MysticoN [11k\]: yep
]
;W[qc]CR[qc]))
